well....maybe you can give me a tip ! Just rinsing doesn't do the job up here in MI. So the chammy ultimetly picks up whats left over. Is there a chemical to use for a spot free hands off rinse on these babies!?!? I also have a soft water system but have no idea how to intragrate with washer!?!? It came as a pkg. deal with my unit...Sorry if I was a lil' brash on my pryer thread but go for the throat...Michigan has one of the worst economies in the entire U.S. and i'm sellin' my ass off to get what I get!