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Beth
I find myself not posting yet another post I have wirtten. I am doing my best here at trying to keep this professional & non-confrontational. If you would please reread my post here perhaps you could see what I have said & am trying to get at. Please leave our history's behind us & focus on the issue at hand.
At every turn you try & discredit me. It's difficult for me to respond because I am trying to keep this professional. As much as I don’t want to I must at least defend my credibility a little. I say a little because there is so much more that you have said that I would like to refute!
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<li><b>You keep saying that I am not helping & not trying to help anyone & just trying to stir up the BBS & that if I cared about the industry I’d try to make changes.</b>
<ul><li>Do you honestly see it this way. Do you really think that I make post the way I do just to cause havoc? When have I EVER made statements that were A) False by fact B) Not substantiated with a barrage of information in which I painfully tried to explain so that others could grasp it? Perhaps you don’t see my post as being substantiated, if not I am sorry, I can only go so far to explain things & take so much of my time to explain them, in addition to trying to keep the attention of the readers. Fact is I am probably one of the more helpful people in the industry on these forums.</ul>
<li><b>Do you really think that I don’t KNOW EXACTLY how much I have shared with others here? </b>
<ul><li> You must really think I’m stupid & make these post for no reason at all. This saddens me somewhat because obviously I cannot get through to you. I’m not all that saddened however because I realize that some people do have a closed mind & no matter what you do you will probably never get through. Sure you could say this about me & well, you have. But it doesn’t hold water because the position that I have taken here is one based on, not just mine but general business, past experiences, past history & pretty basic business principles. And yes, it does help everyone with a basic understanding of certian business principles & dynamics & does have the "potential" to cost a few people some business by making the others more business savy. However the risk of this is far out weighed by the rewards. The direction of these forums necessitates it.
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<li><b>When Have I EVER made a sexist remark toward you or any woman on these forums?</b>
<ul><li>Why do you try & discredit me this way. Making me out to be some sort of Male Chauvinist. If I in ANYWAY have ever mislead you into thinking this I apologize. I’m not apologizing right now mind you because I have never said anything of this nature. You post it here if I have, & I will publicly apologize to you for it. Frankly I think the problem is with regards to that is A) It’s just a poke by you to try & discredit me & B) You are the one with issues regarding your sex. Perhaps because I treat you as a Fellow Business person & not a woman you have seen this as my treating you differently than others have. Speaking of business person, please go back & read all of my post I usually even try to be somewhat politically corect with references to sex, i.e: salesperson, business person etc.. Yes sometimes I slip up, somethings are just such common terms, however I do try. <b>So your statement about me not respecting women in general & you calling it like you see it was just TOTAL & COMPLETE BULL! And pretty much PISSED ME OFF</b> Congradulations, you struck a nerve on me with that one!</ul>
<li><b>You say that you want “valid proposals with guidelines for implementation”</b>
<ul><li>Well, wouldn’t you consider this, <I>quoting myself from a post in this thread,</I> “Criteria like minimum 3 years in the business, checks with the BBB & Law enforcement that verified members” to be just that? Or do you consider it too right wing to actually verify the integrity of the members of an organization that will allow their members to post there seal that’s boasted to quantify it’s members as being a better choice than non-members?</ul>
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Quit attacking me with nothing, if your going to attack me at least try to find some dirt on me that will back it up. Finding that dirt is going to be tough cause I can’t think of any. For you & others it’s the same old thing. Network, Share Openly. However you NEVER give any concrete advantages of how doing this will “outweigh” the negative impact of it on "US CONTRACTORS". You just say "Education is Key" While I agree that Education is Key, I retain my position that you have taken it out of context. Education is Key for those of us with estiblished Pressure Cleaning Businesses. Our education the masses adds more pressure than relief.
I have posed this question to you & others many of times. The question being “If your goal is to help people, then why is it that you will so openly help a stranger in which you know nothing about, <I>about their ethics, principles, business knowledge, & personal qualities that will make their business what it becomes.</I> A business that will very possibly end up hurting another person that you may well know. Perhaps that person will be a fellow member, a neighbor, a customer, a friend from the forums. When you hurt that persons business what will you say to them, oops sorry about your luck! Fact is that what you people are doing WILL INEVIDIBLY hurt others in the end. Deny it all you want, but it’s is simply an irrefutable fact of life. Thus, who are you helping & how are you helping them?
As for my poke at you up there with "firing Beth". I apologize. It was meant for a chuckle, but seeing as I really did mean it, I suppose that it's out of line.
I'll be posting a new thread very shortly please read it & respond if you can.
Cody
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