Readyseal ~vs~ Penofin 8 month test completed

mhpoole

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Hey all,

Just thought you all should know i have used penofin the last 5 years. When i found this board everyone was saying how good readyseal was so i got a sampler from pierce. I decided to run my own test before offering it to my clients. The wood was cedar 6 inch wide fence boards. I had 5 boards screwed together. Boards were seasoned about 2 months prior outside before putting them together. Application was as follows I applied 3 light coats to each board, and boards were very dry. 2 with penofin and 3 with readyseal in gold, light brown and medium brown. The structure was placed on my deck about 10 ft above was a fir tree and some wet weather. All the readyseal boards are showing signs of alge already on top and mostly on the edges which was also treated. None of the penofin boards are showing any signs of alge. They both have faded slightly but thats it. I will post pictures in a few months after the full test is complete. I am glad a ran a test before using this product, Penofin is just as easy to use as readyseal but it seems atleast for the northwest penofin is a superior product.

More to come....................

Mark
 

ron

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Hi Mark, i also use penofin but just wanrted to know did you use blue lable penofin or the better red lable penofin?
 

Dan S

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I had ready seal on my fence around my pool.. It only lasted close to one year ..If that .... before it started to look like old again ..


Yes everything was done right ! I never wanted to post this because I know How people can have doubt and un-believe .. but sence the door is open I decided to come on in...........

I am going to push Sikkens this year I really like this product .. It's a lil expensive but well worth it .
 

mhpoole

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Ron,

It was just the blue label stuff. Is the red that much better? If so please explain. In the NW decks typically need done every year or every other. i think people dont want to pony up for the better stuff. Plus its a special order.
 

ron

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ron p/mark if you like the blue lable you'll love the red lable.
It has more pigment and mildew protection in it
Blue lable is 90% UV protection.
Red is 99%
red only comes in 4 colors.
They also make 6 other types of specialised finnish's.
The hardwood type is great on IPE.
 

Aplus

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I think one area you guys are missing is the maintainability of the products.

What happens when it's time to recoat....here it is......

Ready Seal - Percarb wash and a recoat.

Penofin - Strip & brighten before recoating.

Sikkens - Good luck stripping... get your sander ready.

There is no perfect stain. You give and take, and for me, I'd rather have a finish I can easily maintain.
 

ron

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Aplus the only reason you would need to strip penofin is because of color. Same as any other finnish that has pigmint in it.
Any finnish will be darker then the fist when you re-apply.
It can be re-coated without stripping. It just get's darker.
Penofin at best will only last 16 month's on the floor and 3 years on the spindals.
I am looking forward to trying the new WOOD TUX.,but not sure about this top film it has. I will do some testing as soon as it hit's the e-market.
Penofin is used on a lot of boat's it would be impractical to have to strip them every year.
 

Gwas

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Did my deck 5 years ago. My deck is exposed to sun all day !!!! I still do not need to do it again this year !!!!! Want to know what I use ????? Best on the market, barr none !!!!! E-mail me !!!!
 

Mike Hughes

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Originally posted by Gwas
Correct solid stain. I try to push on customers nothing but !!!!

Not if you want repeat business! Alot of people don't care for that look...........if you were seriously targeting wood care work, I imagine that philosophy would lose alot of jobs for you. Most of my customers prefer semi trans.
 

Aplus

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The only time I mention solid color is when the deck is so beat up there is no other way to make it look decent.

Ron,
Are you talking from experience regarding Penofin?

Sure you can recoat without stripping, but then the stain gets really dark, and shiny, sometimes the wood grain is covered right up.

I did over forty decks at a local condo complex last season that all had penofin cedar, previously known as cedar marine, and a few had sable on them.

Well they looked like hell from the last guy trying to recoat over top the previous coat. They were mostly black, some peeling, and generally crappy. I had to strip and re-do each and every one to get a uniform look, and I did not use Penofin!


I consider Penofin to be more film based than penetrating, like Ready Seal is. And I hate the smell of that Brazillian rosewood oil they brag about...it makes me want to gack...

I'll attach some pix here to show exactly how crappy a multi-coated Penofin deck looks. These pix are representative of a typical Penofin treated deck that I see. These all need to be stripped.
 

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Aplus

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The same close up after the deck was stripped and brightened.

This is how it should look when properly prepared. Anything less is a disservice.
 

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Aplus

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About 20 miles south of Detroit.

Here's another for you Penofin lovers.....

Imagine the hassle of xjetting chems on this one! The cart spray pump is the perfect tool for applying stripper and brightener. I can control the spray pattern and flow very accurately. I don't have to worry as much about overspray, because there isn't much, compared to xjetting.
 

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ron

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A-plus i have never seen penofin that i did not apply myself.
I was talking about a maint coat in less then 2 years.
Those decks look like they are from hell. You are correct, that i would'nt stain over them. I cant even tell that is penofin.
 

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