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I know waste water is not supposed to go down a "storm drain" but what about a sewer drain?
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I think that's even worse. Around here, you're not even allowed to let rain water go down the sewer drain.

Where you from?
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Im in Sacramento, CA

Thanks for the links Mark... I've been meaning to come down to the store but am still debating if I have enough resources to get this business started. A trailer mounted hot water unit AND a recovery system is going to be expensive. Thanks for your help in my research.
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I think that's even worse. Around here, you're not even allowed to let rain water go down the sewer drain.

Where you from?
In CA the word "storm drain" is the most common for any outside drain that leads to an ocean, lake and such. "Sewer" is the most common for a drain that is inside and go to the treatment plant, In many areas of CA, it is legal to discharge to the "Sewer" if you follow their guidelines.

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Nice name there. Call me if you like. I may have some tips to help you get started with recovery that works, but does not break the bank. You can upgrade to something bigger down the road.
If you talked to Mark, then he may have already mentioned these ideas, but maybe not.


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Hello Mr Allan,

When would be a good time to call. I would really appreciate the tips on getting started with wastewater recovery and then upgrade down the line. Mark has been a great help but I havent gotten a chance to visit him at the store yet to talk about ww-recovery.

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I am usually around most of the day and early evening. Try to get to sleep by 7PM though.


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I know waste water is not supposed to go down a "storm drain" but what about a sewer drain?
Here's a partial quote from one of the Sacramento BMP sites Mark mentioned:
http://www.sactostormwater.org/industry.asp
"Pressure washing is an excellent way of removing pollutants from outdoor surfaces. Pressure washing wastewater should never be discharged to a storm drain, however! Storm drains should be covered, or the path to the drain should be blocked during pressure washing. With the property owner's permission, the collected wastewater can then be pumped into a sanitary sewer clean out..."

My understanding so far is that:
1) storm sewers and storm drains are off limits... do everything we can to keep our water and dirt and anything else out of the storm drains (gutters at the curb by the sidewalk and such)
2) sanitary sewers and drains on the other hand are able to handle water and soil in reasonable non hazordous amounts no problem. These are the drains such as our toilets and bathtubs and sinks.

I'm still working to understand "how much" grease for instance, and what kinds of cleaners are acceptable for sanitary sewers so I can plan appropriately for the restaurant vent cleaning business in California.

There are several names for the storm sewer systems, and other names for the sanitary sewer systems. I think it boils down to two major ideas:

* if the drain goes directly to our rivers, then don't put anything down it. These are storm drains, gutters in the street etc.

* if it's going to end up at a sewage treatment plant, then we can be more flexible. That's where everyone's regular day to day sewage goes anyway and if our wastewater can play well with their wastewater, cool. We still have to avoid dumping hazordous waste in these drains, but I'm not yet sure where they draw the line on hazordous or non hazordous.
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Your local sewer plant manager can advise you more
on what their requirements are for washwater discharge.



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We still have to avoid dumping hazordous waste in these drains, but I'm not yet sure where they draw the line on hazordous or non hazordous.
From all my research, it really depends on what chemicals you are using. Many cleaners are used in residential and commercial settings that get put in the sanitary system, so it is more compatible than just gray water from washing machines/showers and black water from toilet usage. Each plant is different though and some are very outdated and already at capacity. If one washer who does a large amount of cleaning were to discharge everything there, the plant could easily be "flooded".


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