Enclosed Trailers?

oneness

New Member
Yeah, scare tactics. Yes, those law apply everywhere, but the key is enforcement. If no one is enforcing the law, and no one cares to, then you can drive 90 in a 55 all day long.

See, the difference is that YOUR city is enforcing, and thus have laws and codes written pertaining to enforcement and penalties. I agree, if that's the case, then you'd better reclaim or face the risk of penalties.
 
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OrangeCrest

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oneness said:
Yeah, scare tactics. Yes, those law apply everywhere, but the key is enforcement. If no one is enforcing the law, and no one cares to, then you can drive 90 in a 55 all day long.

See, the difference is that YOUR city is enforcing, and thus have laws and codes written pertaining to enforcement and penalties. I agree, if that's the case, then you'd better reclaim or face the risk of penalties.

Like you said, "If no one is enforcing the law."

Like I said, "You can out swim a shark if you swim faster than the person behind you," it is just a matter of time.

Just like a month ago, I was driving 65 MPH, 10 MPH over the speed limit because I was pulling a trailer. The shark caught me and it is costing me $365 for the ticket, $30 admin fee, $35 for traffic school.

$430 for speed that I can almost run by foot.

All while the others are passing me and the CHiPper at 90 MPH...

By law they are to enforce it and can be enforing it. How many murders do you heard about on the news, or all the businesses that are rob at gun point? If all that is reported is what is going on, this world is actually very tame.

How about all the drug trafficers that are caught everyday... Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean enforcement isn't being done.
 

oneness

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OrangeCrest said:
Like you said, "If no one is enforcing the law."

By law they are to enforce it and can be enforing it. How many murders do you heard about on the news, or all the businesses that are rob at gun point? If all that is reported is what is going on, this world is actually very tame.
How about all the drug trafficers that are caught everyday... Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean enforcement isn't being done.

oh whatever...You're convinced you're right on every damned point and subject that comes up.

You're right...the EPA and local governments are secretely enforcing the CWA nationwide....There are huge numbers of poor unaware PW contractors losing their businesses all over the country. We just don't hear about it because it is secret...

This is my last post on this subject.
 
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OrangeCrest

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LOL!!

Don't take it personal, I live next door to a code enforcement officer and I hear it all the time.

In fact, a couple of officers and him just last week went up and nailed the contractor I work with for not having some signage posted. Closed down the entire job until they were posted.

Two days later I was told about how the city closed down the entire job until they posted these sign by the builder.

I didn't tell him I knew the guy, but it's strange to hear all these things from both sides of the fence.

As being right about everything... For my area, it is very accurate, for your area maybe not... Just wouldn't want to be that guy that felt a little to confident that things weren't being enforced and getting nailed in the process.
 

timhays

New Member
as a entry level reclaimist in an so called area that is not being enforced(ho hum),i can tell you that being one of the few to offer those services will open the doors to big money clientel,and will allow you to set standards in your area,set yourself apart from your competition,and allow you to stop competing with the very people you (oneness) has complained about keeping your prices so low.
 

squirtgun

New Member
Tim,
Being the only company around offering reclaim closed every door we knocked when we went fulltime last year.We have even taken the time to try and explain to potential customers the advantages of using reclaim to no avail.I haven't given up on the reclaim issue with potential customers,but if I mention it and they get the glassey eyed look,it's not brought up again.Sometimes offering reclaim sets you apart in the wrong way.
We have a simple filter and sump pump setup we can use,but rarely do.Because of all the negative responses we put the bigger equipment on hold until we have to have it.I do have a lot more knowledge on reclaim than our competitors,so when the time comes we will be ahead of the game.
 

oneness

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timhays said:
as a entry level reclaimist in an so called area that is not being enforced(ho hum),i can tell you that being one of the few to offer those services will open the doors to big money clientel,and will allow you to set standards in your area,set yourself apart from your competition,and allow you to stop competing with the very people you (oneness) has complained about keeping your prices so low.

Blah blah blah...According to more than one company in Florida that I've talked to who tried it, it made it HARDER to close jobs...

Trust me, no homeowner here is going to pay more so I can reclaim the water from cleaning their driveway. But, naturally, you know everything there is to know about it.

Before you ask, I'm not interested in wagering $5k to see who's right on this. :rolleyes:
 

oneness

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squirtgun said:
Tim,
Being the only company around offering reclaim closed every door we knocked when we went fulltime last year.We have even taken the time to try and explain to potential customers the advantages of using reclaim to no avail.I haven't given up on the reclaim issue with potential customers,but if I mention it and they get the glassey eyed look,it's not brought up again.Sometimes offering reclaim sets you apart in the wrong way.
We have a simple filter and sump pump setup we can use,but rarely do.Because of all the negative responses we put the bigger equipment on hold until we have to have it.I do have a lot more knowledge on reclaim than our competitors,so when the time comes we will be ahead of the game.

I think it'll be a LONG time in coming to your area, Scott!
 

oneness

New Member
OrangeCrest said:
As being right about everything... For my area, it is very accurate, for your area maybe not... Just wouldn't want to be that guy that felt a little to confident that things weren't being enforced and getting nailed in the process.


That's why I suggest doing a lot of research and checking to see what is being done in a particular area. That's all.
 

copgib

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Insurance

DanKes said:
If you do $50,000 in sales, your insurance is $5000? I'm paying about $600 per year for 1 million of coverage. You better shop around.....


Where and by whom do you get $1-million coverage for $600? Thanks Hugh (copgib@earthlink.net)
 

Dan S

New Member
OrangeCrest said:
LOL!!

Don't take it personal, I live next door to a code enforcement officer and I hear it all the time.

In fact, a couple of officers and him just last week went up and nailed the contractor I work with for not having some signage posted. Closed down the entire job until they were posted.

Two days later I was told about how the city closed down the entire job until they posted these sign by the builder.

I didn't tell him I knew the guy, but it's strange to hear all these things from both sides of the fence.

As being right about everything... For my area, it is very accurate, for your area maybe not... Just wouldn't want to be that guy that felt a little to confident that things weren't being enforced and getting nailed in the process.



Hey Orange you didnt take a picture of that contractor did you?
You did didnt you you took the picture and turned him in to your neighbor?
Man how do you sleep at night!?
 

timhays

New Member
one again oneness you dont see the big picture,in my post i specifically mentioned that the reclaim will allow you to stop competing with uninsured pressure washers for the Homeowner,and allow you to move into more lucrative markets like Industrial where the clientel have deep pockets and are watched very closely by the city. this is only one example.
 

timhays

New Member
squirtgun said:
Tim,
Being the only company around offering reclaim closed every door we knocked when we went fulltime last year.We have even taken the time to try and explain to potential customers the advantages of using reclaim to no avail.I haven't given up on the reclaim issue with potential customers,but if I mention it and they get the glassey eyed look,it's not brought up again.Sometimes offering reclaim sets you apart in the wrong way.
We have a simple filter and sump pump setup we can use,but rarely do.Because of all the negative responses we put the bigger equipment on hold until we have to have it.I do have a lot more knowledge on reclaim than our competitors,so when the time comes we will be ahead of the game.


Knowledge can only help you in the long run,i would look for the clientel who have no choice but to use your services,and start practicing best management practices and they will come.
 

timhays

New Member
quote by oneness "Trust me, no homeowner here is going to pay more so I can reclaim the water from cleaning their driveway"

your right they are not going to pay "More" that is why you perform those services for the same price as now and start setting yourself apart from your competitors,you will eventually attract the right clientel,as well as give yourself an edge.


i dont mean any disrespect oneness but the last several months your post's have taken an attacking stance maybe there are stress issues that are causing this i dont know,i understand your market is saturated and pricing may not be where it needs to be.
judging by your interpretation of my posts i think our opinions differ in the sales department,do you have experience with sales and marketing?
 

oneness

New Member
timhays said:
i dont mean any disrespect oneness but the last several months your post's have taken an attacking stance maybe there are stress issues that are causing this i dont know,i understand your market is saturated and pricing may not be where it needs to be.
judging by your interpretation of my posts i think our opinions differ in the sales department,do you have experience with sales and marketing?

That's rich...You commening on how I come across as attacking?

Yes, we do differ quite a bit on many things.
 

AdkinsPwrWash

New Member
Guys...I mean, really...do we have to have this flame-fest in my thread about the plusses/minuses of an enclosed trailer? If you don't re-claim water, and it's not enforced in your area, then I personally see NO reason to do so. I always just wash the water off either into a ditch/into grass etc. and have yet to have one single complaint, or to have Mr. EPA say anything to me. When they do...then, maybe I'll start doing so.
 
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OrangeCrest

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Dan S said:
Hey Orange you didnt take a picture of that contractor did you?
You did didnt you you took the picture and turned him in to your neighbor?
Man how do you sleep at night!?

Ha Ha Ha!!

No Dan, he is a code enforcement officer in Temecula. Temecula makes Riverside look like a joke when it comes to enforcement.

What you don't see in the pic is the Santa Ana Police Officer, San Bernadino Sheriff, the Corona Cop (On top of the hill) and my next door neighbor to my side telling about the drain...

All off duty of corse... It could get a lot more fun if the Public Works Director, the Cal Osha dude, the Riverside Swat Cop, the CDF Fire Chief and the other Riverside Fireman next to him were to come out...

I think I am the only one that doesn't work for the government in my little section of the community.

That's how I sleep though, pretty comfy, LOL!!
 
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OrangeCrest

Guest
squirtgun said:
Tim,
Being the only company around offering reclaim closed every door we knocked when we went fulltime last year.We have even taken the time to try and explain to potential customers the advantages of using reclaim to no avail.I haven't given up on the reclaim issue with potential customers,but if I mention it and they get the glassey eyed look,it's not brought up again.Sometimes offering reclaim sets you apart in the wrong way.
We have a simple filter and sump pump setup we can use,but rarely do.Because of all the negative responses we put the bigger equipment on hold until we have to have it.I do have a lot more knowledge on reclaim than our competitors,so when the time comes we will be ahead of the game.
Hey Squirtgun... If it is effecting you, just don't mention it. When you do your thing use it. If they don't like it, say sorry, this is what keeps us all out of trouble...
 

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