Whhat Price ?

[FCPWLLC]

Ok, what price would you clean any size home for ?

Pressure wash ,Vinyl,Aluminium siding and outside of gutters .

No need to preach to me why you wuld not do this :burn:

If you were getting 5-20 house washes a day during the busy season no marketing , no quotes , customer prepays .

I know what I would charge the question is what would you charge . We are trying to find the balance nationwide since we would offer the work to others .

You don't even have to be a member or pay us $350 a Year .

Your bottom line price . Any size house .

$199
$299
$399
$499

www.deckrestorer.com

Don't have to pay or be a member.... Just be willing to work for a set price any size house sight unseen. That is order taking. Not selling or marketing or getting FMV for your service. That is only for an employee mindset. That is all you would attract and eventually, it would give the system a black eye. Because those mentalities won't deliver the best service and word will get out and there won't be anymore pre-pays. Middle men are only good for the top levels and provide a low price environment. The higher-ups are making $$$ on volume, so they don't care that the FMV might be triple the price that it is being sold for.

 

[wetwash]

Don't have to pay or be a member.... Just be willing to work for a set price any size house sight unseen. That is order taking. Not selling or marketing or getting FMV for your service. That is only for an employee mindset. That is all you would attract and eventually, it would give the system a black eye. Because those mentalities won't deliver the best service and word will get out and there won't be anymore pre-pays. Middle men are only good for the top levels and provide a low price environment. The higher-ups are making $$$ on volume, so they don't care that the FMV might be triple the price that it is being sold for.

So.
I got it . Are you saying your a salesmen .
Service would be offered by each company . By law we would have no control.

Some sales people tend to do anything to get the job .
Oh by the way I never claimed to be a salemen.

I do think business for power washers will increase with this plan. Finally High prices are from those that can't compete so they scam those they can . Our current price is Fmv ? Show me the numbers that say you should get $600 for 1 hr 1/2 house wash on 2000 sq ft home . That right its all about how much money people can place in their pocket . Stop acting like the industry is you and your protecting it . Let the industry protect itself we are five voices in the mist of thousands .

This thread is headed nowhere fast.

 

[FCPWLLC]

So.
I got it . Are you saying your a salesmen .
Service would be offered by each company . By law we would have no control.

Some sales people tend to do anything to get the job .
Oh by the way I never claimed to be a salemen.

I do think business for power washers will increase with this plan. Finally High prices are from those that can't compete so they scam those they can . Our current price is Fmv ? Show me the numbers that say you should get $600 for 1 hr 1/2 house wash on 2000 sq ft home . That right its all about how much money people can place in their pocket . Stop acting like the industry is you and your protecting it . Let the industry protect itself we are five voices in the mist of thousands .

This thread is headed nowhere fast.

The difference is that you are comparing apples to oranges. If ALL you sell is a house wash, then it is only worth $15+/hr (That's what most of us pay our help) However, if you sell customer service, dependability, trustworthiness etc., then that is worth its value to the consumer. Nothing scamming about selling a Valuable service.

Good customer service costs money. Being dependable and on time costs money. Don't think so? We are on time because we left shop early enough to not allow traffic jams get us caught up. We get to shop early to make sure everything is operational before we go out. We finish the day by filling up on fuel to be ready for the next day. We have back-up equipment and vehicles so as not to let our cunsumer down. Thier schedules are as impotant as ours are. All these things cost money. From extra time on the clock for the help to extra expenses having multiple machines/trucks and the extra insurance they bear. It costs money to keep your word and to go back and clean that spot you missed. It costs money to fix a window that got cracked accidently because we're all human.

Knowing these TRUE costs of doing business and pricing accordingly is not a scam. Understanding that there are only a set number of billable hours in a season and knowing what your business goals are (Salaries that support a family and put away for the future and build wealth for our childre) is not a scam.

You think that a consumer doesn't VALUE knowing that the contractor they hired is Insured or has ethics like not pi$$ing in thier bushes and staring at thier 15 yr/old daughter? Think they don't understand that good reliable help Costs money? Think they don't VALUE when a contractor keeps his word and gets the project done on time so that thier Sons wedding can go as planned with the freshly refinished deck as the gathering place for thier guests?

Nothing SCAM about understanding what is really being sold. Customer service is being sold.

Actually it is the Low price guys that are the ones that can't compete. Talk about a scam.... A scam is when the consumer pays $100 for what they believe to be a good service only to find later that the contractor wasn't insured because he can't afford insurance. How is pricing with a knowledge of your true numbers a scam or a reflection that you can't compete?

Now, that said, there IS a niche for all sorts in the marketplace. There is a niche for the basic, nothing fancy house wash. Reason being... there are consumers that don't care if your late. Thier time isn't worth what the Lawyer across towns time is. This consumer gets NO value from what you sell above and beyond JUST a house wash. There are consumers that will smoke a joint with the contractor after the job is done so long as he isn't charged for that time. Some consumers could care less if you show up in unform much less a shirt at all. This is the market that your system would work for. A market that is only concerned with what it is going to cost them. If they make $24/hr at the loacal factory, then they are willing to pay a guy to come out and clean thier vinyl for $20/hr.

Same for the $500/hr Lawyer.... He thinks a guy on time and depedable is a bargain at $300/hr. He feels he saved $200/hr. Like I said.... Niches. Nothing Scam about KNOWING your market and what you're selling. Customer services sells at a higher profit margin than Simple Pressure Cleaning.

Anyhow, I may just be a dumb hick from KY and you all can just ignore me. Like I said earlier, I am usually negative.

 

[MR ALAN]

The houses here usually only get dusty and spider webs on most occasions. Needing just a good rinse, and no chems, my basic price is $250.00 for a one story.
Any extras like Flatwork is usually extra unless it is a real small area.

 

[wetwash]

The difference is that you are comparing apples to oranges. If ALL you sell is a house wash, then it is only worth $15+/hr (That's what most of us pay our help) However, if you sell customer service, dependability, trustworthiness etc., then that is worth its value to the consumer. Nothing scamming about selling a Valuable service.

Good customer service costs money. Being dependable and on time costs money. Don't think so? We are on time because we left shop early enough to not allow traffic jams get us caught up. We get to shop early to make sure everything is operational before we go out. We finish the day by filling up on fuel to be ready for the next day. We have back-up equipment and vehicles so as not to let our cunsumer down. Thier schedules are as impotant as ours are. All these things cost money. From extra time on the clock for the help to extra expenses having multiple machines/trucks and the extra insurance they bear. It costs money to keep your word and to go back and clean that spot you missed. It costs money to fix a window that got cracked accidently because we're all human.

Knowing these TRUE costs of doing business and pricing accordingly is not a scam. Understanding that there are only a set number of billable hours in a season and knowing what your business goals are (Salaries that support a family and put away for the future and build wealth for our childre) is not a scam.

You think that a consumer doesn't VALUE knowing that the contractor they hired is Insured or has ethics like not pi$$ing in thier bushes and staring at thier 15 yr/old daughter? Think they don't understand that good reliable help Costs money? Think they don't VALUE when a contractor keeps his word and gets the project done on time so that thier Sons wedding can go as planned with the freshly refinished deck as the gathering place for thier guests?

Nothing SCAM about understanding what is really being sold. Customer service is being sold.

Actually it is the Low price guys that are the ones that can't compete. Talk about a scam.... A scam is when the consumer pays $100 for what they believe to be a good service only to find later that the contractor wasn't insured because he can't afford insurance. How is pricing with a knowledge of your true numbers a scam or a reflection that you can't compete?

Now, that said, there IS a niche for all sorts in the marketplace. There is a niche for the basic, nothing fancy house wash. Reason being... there are consumers that don't care if your late. Thier time isn't worth what the Lawyer across towns time is. This consumer gets NO value from what you sell above and beyond JUST a house wash. There are consumers that will smoke a joint with the contractor after the job is done so long as he isn't charged for that time. Some consumers could care less if you show up in unform much less a shirt at all. This is the market that your system would work for. A market that is only concerned with what it is going to cost them. If they make $24/hr at the loacal factory, then they are willing to pay a guy to come out and clean thier vinyl for $20/hr.

Same for the $500/hr Lawyer.... He thinks a guy on time and depedable is a bargain at $300/hr. He feels he saved $200/hr. Like I said.... Niches. Nothing Scam about KNOWING your market and what you're selling. Customer services sells at a higher profit margin than Simple Pressure Cleaning.

Anyhow, I may just be a dumb hick from KY and you all can just ignore me. Like I said earlier, I am usually negative.

SOME OF MY CLIENTS OWN BANKS AND LAW FIRMS
GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE IS BEING SKILLED AT WHAT YOU DO SO FOR ME CUSTOMER SERVICE COST ARE LOW

Name one Billionaire that didnt make its money in volume.

In my opinion it sound like some scam the rich and want to call it FMV .
A customer should pay more because we have a short season ,no you need to get more customers.

Insurance is cheap tell your story to a customer that dosen't no any better .

Contractors in my area tell customers all kind of lies. At Wetwash we stick to the facts .
A clean house is a clean house you can sell it any way you want its still a clean house.

 

[FCPWLLC]

SOME OF MY CLIENTS OWN BANKS AND LAW FIRMS
GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE IS BEING SKILLED AT WHAT YOU DO SO FOR ME CUSTOMER SERVICE COST ARE LOW

Name one Billionaire that didnt make its money in volume.

In my opinion it sound like some scam the rich and want to call it FMV .
A customer should pay more because we have a short season ,no you need to get more customers.

Insurance is cheap tell your story to a customer that dosen't no any better .

Contractors in my area tell customers all kind of lies. At Wetwash we stick to the facts .
A clean house is a clean house you can sell it any way you want its still a clean house.

If you want to sell house washes on volume and stick to "Facts" then you might as well advertise $39 house washes because the FACT is that we can clean the average Vinyl House in 1 hour using less than 40 psi and $6 worth of chemical.
With Volume, you can be profitable selling JUST house washes and nothing more. Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes all of them do it everyday at the expense of paying its workers less than a living wage.

So it's a Scam to want to live in the best School Districts and in a nice home or want a dependable vehicle. Are you ready to clean Vinyl at $39 a pop? That's where it's headed if everybody thinks that's all they are selling. If you don't think that there's value in dependable customer service, you aren't taking a look around.

I'm out. Do it how you like dude, I'm just pointing out that you won't be dealing with the cream of the crop when offering contrators low priced jobs. That can't be good for any industry.
However it will be good for those of us that market to the customers that do value good customer service and that know a Man should make a decent living providing that customer service. Like I said there is a Niche for everyone. Wetwash wants to be the next Walmart or Home Depot, that's cool. You'll get rich. And that's cool too. But you can't say that Selling Top notch service is a SCAM.

 

[5 Star Johnny]

This thread is headed nowhere fast.

OK! OK! Maybe I was being a bit hasty. You've got a great idea there. In an effort to be more positive, I'll offer you some ideas for your new website to promote your new venture:

www.splash-n-dash.com "We're all wet!"
www.spray-n-pay.com "We get it clean......sorta'!"
www.lowpressure-lowballer.com "A different contractor every time - Guaranteed!"

Show me the numbers that say you should get $600 for 1 hr 1/2 house wash on 2000 sq ft home .

If you can do this home in 1 1/2 hrs., you're not getting it very clean. In our process, we prewash the sections; apply cleaning agent; scrub every inch of siding including gutters, soffits, etc.; hot water, detail cleaning, cold water rinse to finish. Two guys - approx. 3 1/2 - 4 hrs, including set up & tear down. It's not just "cleaner" - It's clean!!!

100 + is chump change .

You were referencing the amount of decks we do annually. Judging from your approach, you prbably average $500 per deck. Our average is OVER 3 times that amount per deck, and we secure a 5-Year maintenance contract on 97% of all decks we do. Decks are only a percentage of our annual revenue. I'm not a millionaire, but I'm saving up to be one!

Just wanted to pass along my thoughts. I sincerely look forward to monitoring your success. OH.....by the way......Jackie Kennedy-Onasis. She didn't become a billionaire through volume.....she only had to marry 1 guy and wait 'til he died!! See ya'

 

[wetwash]

OK! OK! Maybe I was being a bit hasty. You've got a great idea there. In an effort to be more positive, I'll offer you some ideas for your new website to promote your new venture:

www.splash-n-dash.com "We're all wet!"
www.spray-n-pay.com "We get it clean......sorta'!"
www.lowpressure-lowballer.com "A different contractor every time - Guaranteed!"



If you can do this home in 1 1/2 hrs., you're not getting it very clean. In our process, we prewash the sections; apply cleaning agent; scrub every inch of siding including gutters, soffits, etc.; hot water, detail cleaning, cold water rinse to finish. Two guys - approx. 3 1/2 - 4 hrs, including set up & tear down. It's not just "cleaner" - It's clean!!!



You were referencing the amount of decks we do annually. Judging from your approach, you prbably average $500 per deck. Our average is OVER 3 times that amount per deck, and we secure a 5-Year maintenance contract on 97% of all decks we do. Decks are only a percentage of our annual revenue. I'm not a millionaire, but I'm saving up to be one!

Just wanted to pass along my thoughts. I sincerely look forward to monitoring your success. OH.....by the way......Jackie Kennedy-Onasis. She didn't become a billionaire through volume.....she only had to marry 1 guy and wait 'til he died!! See ya'

I said Billionaire with a B , Not millionaire with a M . Who died ? She inherited what?

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[PressurePros]

Before you condemn anyone I would recommend rereading your posts with an eye towards syntax, grammar and spelling. You must be a foreigner as you have a weak grasp on the English language and have an even weaker understanding of America history. Though you complained about the post on on a black 007 so I thought you were black-American.

We have seen a thousand guys like you come and go. Big ideas, tiny self esteem. They come spouting gifts of higher business and understanding only to crumble into name-calling nut cases that slowly get banned board by board. Then they, like all dog-shitdoes , dry up and blow away.

Mods/Board Owners: I realize this post is outside the ettiquette of good posting and I fully expect it to be deleted but I have encountered this guy on several occasions and every encounter has been a negative one.

 

[wetwash]

Before you condemn anyone I would recommend rereading your posts with an eye towards syntax, grammar and spelling. You must be a foreigner as you have a weak grasp on the English language and have an even weaker understanding of America history. Though you complained about the post on on a black 007 so I thought you were black-American.

We have seen a thousand guys like you come and go. Big ideas, tiny self esteem. They come spouting gifts of higher business and understanding only to crumble into name-calling nut cases that slowly get banned board by board. Then they, like all dog-shitdoes , dry up and blow away.

Mods/Board Owners: I realize this post is outside the ettiquette of good posting and I fully expect it to be deleted but I have encountered this guy on several occasions and every encounter has been a negative one.

I will take this time to felicitate you Ken on your aristocratic verbiage, although explicit, it is rather feeble. You may call it condemning another’s point of view; I call it stating my own opinion and beliefs. I understand that you have a problem with me, that’s fine, but I must say it is rather funny, because thread 19 (was this your mental breakdown?) and thread 29 clearly speaks to your personal demeanor. From the very beginning you were the one that has been negative towards me. My main post that started this whole crock was a simple question. So, instead of answering the question everyone (including you) decided to attack me, instead of getting to the matter at hand. I thought this forum was to help, educate, and advise other business men/women; instead it is a stage for those who think they are almighty to grandstand, ridicule and disregard other point of views. I allowed myself to stoop to your level, so the one thing I wanted to do is thank you for opening my eyes; I no longer choose to mirror you.

Our company is becoming a strong competitive component in this industry. We will allow you to continue with your self-indulgent attacks, as long as they do not become libel. We will no longer participate in simple minded activity. By the way, please refer to your spell check (F7) before submitting your posts.

 

[SQUEAKY]

[puke] !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wetwash]

The difference is that you are comparing apples to oranges. If ALL you sell is a house wash, then it is only worth $15+/hr (That's what most of us pay our help) However, if you sell customer service, dependability, trustworthiness etc., then that is worth its value to the consumer. Nothing scamming about selling a Valuable service.

Good customer service costs money. Being dependable and on time costs money. Don't think so? We are on time because we left shop early enough to not allow traffic jams get us caught up. We get to shop early to make sure everything is operational before we go out. We finish the day by filling up on fuel to be ready for the next day. We have back-up equipment and vehicles so as not to let our cunsumer down. Thier schedules are as impotant as ours are. All these things cost money. From extra time on the clock for the help to extra expenses having multiple machines/trucks and the extra insurance they bear. It costs money to keep your word and to go back and clean that spot you missed. It costs money to fix a window that got cracked accidently because we're all human.

Knowing these TRUE costs of doing business and pricing accordingly is not a scam. Understanding that there are only a set number of billable hours in a season and knowing what your business goals are (Salaries that support a family and put away for the future and build wealth for our childre) is not a scam.

You think that a consumer doesn't VALUE knowing that the contractor they hired is Insured or has ethics like not pi$$ing in thier bushes and staring at thier 15 yr/old daughter? Think they don't understand that good reliable help Costs money? Think they don't VALUE when a contractor keeps his word and gets the project done on time so that thier Sons wedding can go as planned with the freshly refinished deck as the gathering place for thier guests?

Nothing SCAM about understanding what is really being sold. Customer service is being sold.

Actually it is the Low price guys that are the ones that can't compete. Talk about a scam.... A scam is when the consumer pays $100 for what they believe to be a good service only to find later that the contractor wasn't insured because he can't afford insurance. How is pricing with a knowledge of your true numbers a scam or a reflection that you can't compete?

Now, that said, there IS a niche for all sorts in the marketplace. There is a niche for the basic, nothing fancy house wash. Reason being... there are consumers that don't care if your late. Thier time isn't worth what the Lawyer across towns time is. This consumer gets NO value from what you sell above and beyond JUST a house wash. There are consumers that will smoke a joint with the contractor after the job is done so long as he isn't charged for that time. Some consumers could care less if you show up in unform much less a shirt at all. This is the market that your system would work for. A market that is only concerned with what it is going to cost them. If they make $24/hr at the loacal factory, then they are willing to pay a guy to come out and clean thier vinyl for $20/hr.

Same for the $500/hr Lawyer.... He thinks a guy on time and depedable is a bargain at $300/hr. He feels he saved $200/hr. Like I said.... Niches. Nothing Scam about KNOWING your market and what you're selling. Customer services sells at a higher profit margin than Simple Pressure Cleaning.

Anyhow, I may just be a dumb hick from KY and you all can just ignore me. Like I said earlier, I am usually negative.

This guy going to teach me what ?
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[PressurePros]

Terah, you coming out to St Louis? I'm sure Don has room on the agenda for one more speaker to talk about domain name purchasing and how it benefits the pressure washing industry? ;-)

 

[CaroliProWash]

Our company is becoming a strong competitive component in this industry. We will allow you to continue with your self-indulgent attacks, as long as they do not become libel. We will no longer participate in simple minded activity. By the way, please refer to your spell check (F7) before submitting your posts.

You may want to use that on your signature area as well.

By the way, I noticed on your website that you are in Maryland as well as Virginia and that you offer deck rebuilding & restoration?

Celeste

 

[wetwash]

You may want to use that on your signature area as well.

By the way, I noticed on your website that you are in Maryland as well as Virginia and that you offer deck rebuilding & restoration?

Celeste

Celeste, your point is ?

 

[CaroliProWash]

Well my first point was that you spelled "cleaning" incorrectly in your line of stuff.

The second question relates to the rebuilding - we restore decks but don't wield a hammer How is the market for that?

Celeste

 

[wetwash]

Well my first point was that you spelled "cleaning" incorrectly in your line of stuff.

The second question relates to the rebuilding - we restore decks but don't wield a hammer How is the market for that?

Celeste

I'll fix "Cleaning", thank you .


I think you are on a fishing expedition and I don't enjoy that sport .

 

[FCPWLLC]

I could always teach a "How to apply a rear naked choke" class.

[hello]

 

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[CaroliProWash]

I don't particularly care for fishing either. As the majority of folks on this board will tell you - if I want to know something, I'll ask. If I have an opinion, I'll tell you, no frosting included. I actually think I got banned one time for vehemently defending a fact (which, for the record, said defense did break the rules and I understand better now ) I don't play word games or beat around the bush.

If you don't want to answer a question, there are plenty of other contractors that I can ask who evidently don't feel like they have something to hide.

Celeste