Advice/sounding off

bgbrew01

New Member
The past few weeks I have been working out of town. Every time I have worked out of town I always open the phone book and check out the competition. I was working a larger city and there were about 35-40 PW companies there. While I was there my partner and I were offered what I concidered alot of business to have no advertising on our trucks (15-20 gas stations, 4 restraunts, a large street sweeping company wanting to trade business, and a 6 story building). This was nice! However, also while we were there we had 4 different PW companies come up to us asking us questions about how we get large contracts and how we have grown our business. This seemed odd to me that these guys were asking us how to get contracts and complaining about how difficult it is to get commercial work at the same time companies are coming to my partner and I wanting us to do commercial work.

I have thought about the things which we are doing different. The main difference I can come up with is presentation of our company and services. We have tried to organize and present ourselves as a larger small business. I have found many companies would rather deal with a company they feel are established (although we have only been in business since March). We have put a large emphasis on customer service, being in constant communication with general managers, maintenance managers, etc. All of that comes into play in presentation and word of mouth sales in our local area.

However, when we were out of town the only thing which was speaking for us was the presentation of our appearance, employee appearance, and the appearance of our trucks/equipment. We keep all of our equipment neat and clean (we try to at least rinse everything once a day if not more). A prime example is there was one PW guy came up to us asking us questions and talking with us. He said he did about 50% of his business washing trucks, but he wanted to grow and was asking us how. Now I do not wash trucks/vehicles and I actually avoid like it was the plaque, but I can give him some simple advice. I looked at his equipment, which was adequate for the job, but it looked terrible. He said he washed trucks as part of his business but his truck and trailer looked like he had driven on 20 miles of dirt road. This is a major pet peeve of mine, if you say your are cleaning someone elses stuff for a living keep your own stuff clean, especially when you literally have the cleaning equipment with you.

I also realize not everyone can afford new trucks and equipment. But, whenever we started using new trucks our misc. business really picked up. They ended up making us much more money than the monthly payment on them. The nice new, neat, and clean appearance makes a difference to people/companies we work for. Whenever we come on bid against another company who can provide the same quality of work for essentially the same price we almost always get the bid because of appearance alone.

If any of this applies to any of you please take it to heart and I hope it helps.

PS I appologize for this being the War and Peace of posts.


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Ken @ Pro-Coat

New Member
Thanks for the insight. Sometimes we "can't see the forest for the trees". As I was reading it I thought about the looks of our own stepvan and trailer. Tomorrow they get a bath. Monday, customer service becomes job #1!

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Jon

New Member
Hey bgbrew,

You must be in the East as every phone book I ever looked at out West has no where near 30 to 50 PWs in them.

Let me get this correct here, you have been in business 5 month and are working a job out of town, right?

No name on your truck (s)

Other PWs come up to you, strangers (possible customers) approach you.

Now most PWs I see avoid each other, a few, very very small few might look at you as your drive on the freeway but again most avoid eye contact.

What I read here is bragging but nothing to show us you are taking all that business from the locals.

If as many PWs as you claim asked you about getting large accounts why did you not offer them the work for say 15% of the gross? That way you don't have to travel=cost of fuel, food, rooms and misc. exp.

I am not putting you down but I read your post twice and it just does not seem possible.

Now if by working you mean you and your partner went to another town to clean up and run out the locals by doing SALES type of work I could understand a little.

There is no way in my mind all that business is going to find an out of town puressure washer that has his truck in town with NO advertising on it, it is just not possible.

Show us some true proof, something to back your words with. Most sweeper companies do their own PWing these days. I could go on and on but I know you get my point.

Now why not say what State and City your in also, make a believer out of me. 35 to 40 PWs in the phone book, could be in NY, more then that if in Florida but not Southern California.

Jon

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Jon Fleischer
Oasis Pressure Cleaning
(909) 792-2247
Fax (909) 792-5633
 

bgbrew01

New Member
To Jon and anyone else who has read above:

I apologize if that came off boastful it was not intended that way. My intent was to help others whose company may be at a growth plateau.

As to your question concerning people walking up to me and offering us business, I may not have been completely clear. People come up and talk to us and are interested in what we are doing. This happens on a daily basis. Most people are just being nosey/curious. But some are being curious for a reason, they are wanting something cleaned and are interested in how we can do it. I always take the time to talk to these people.

I may not have been clear on the number of PW in the area. I reread what I wrote and it sounds like they were all in the phone book, outside of Atlanta by the way. They were not. Whenever I go out of town I always check with a PW repair/parts person in case we need anything while we are there. He was the one who told me there were that many in the area.

As to your comment about talking to other PW. Anytime I see someone else cleaning I always go up and introduce myself and check out what they are doing. Especially in my local area, I always find out who they clean and tell them who we clean. I do this so I do not just flat out steal something from someone else. I have never ran into someone who is rude. If I did not talk to and watch other PW how am I suppose to learn to PW different things, new techniques?

About working out of town. I always bid my expenses, such as food, lodging, gas, etc into the total package. As an aside this always makes my bid price for jobs more expensive, we have received two different contracts because our price was higher and the person we were bidding to realized that the higher price made it more feasible for us to complete the job correctly.

About the sweeper company. The sweeper guy came up to us and was wanting to know who we had talked to and how to get into contact with them. He was wanting us to sub-contract to clean the lots for him. He said he would trade that work for the contacts at all of the restraunts and shopping centers he does and he knew a number of people who have asked about PW.

As for talking with other service type companies that's where we have received the overwealming majority of our customers. I always talk with the contracting supers, electricians, Hood cleaning guys (lots of good contacts here), HVAC (this is a gold mine of contacts I will write and explain some other time).

My point of my original post was to help others think about their business. Building a business reputation is a constant and on-going process which appearace and customer service a portion of. First impressions mean alot especially when you are providing a service for others.

Jon again I apologize if I offened you or anyone else. If you or anyone else has any questions/comments I would be more than happy to hear them.
 

Jon

New Member
Hey Bgbrew,

Thanks for clearing things up and explaining more in detail what you meant about when you work out of town.

It makes things easier to understand this way and I did not feel offended, more like here is a new bragging so quickly.

I guess since most my work is done after people are home in bed or before they wake up I don't get the exposer you do even though my truck has the company name and phone number all over it.

If you ever do a job out my way contact me and we can have coffee together, just remember I don't pay mileage!!

Jon

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Beep beep, the OPC Roadrunner coming through.

Jon Fleischer
Oasis Pressure Cleaning
(909) 792-2247
Fax (909) 792-5633

[This message has been edited by Jon (edited August 20, 2000).]
 

spraymasters

New Member
Hi there!
You got my interest, especially when you said you were outside Atlanta! Wherabouts? North, South? I live in Woodstock right now, for just another week. We close on our house next Tuesday and will be moving to Cleveland, Ga. to be closer to Dennis, my partner. I'll be working less as a nurse and hopefully, more as a pressure washer and doing the majority of the marketing. Dennis is still working as full time faculty at the college, but will have three afternoons off a week, plus the weekends, but don't want to work him too hard. LOL Anyway, it's encouraging to know that there is that much work out there and we feel we have an edge on the competition. As you mentioned, we take pride in our appearance and presentation, have just bought a new enclosed van to pull our enclosed trailer and both have our logo attractively displayed. We're sticklers on cleanliness too and always wash our equipment off after each job and pack everything neatly away. Anyway, just wanted to get more info about you, welcome you to the board and thanks for the advice!
Gloria (and Dennis)

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Dennis A. Cormier and Gloria A. Wagner
North Georgia Spray Masters, Inc.
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