Hi All! Anyone do ANY wet sandblasting? Please help!

[AranServices]

I have a customer that wants me to do wet sandblasting with my p-washer - what is a reasonable price for horizontal concrete?
... any tips or suggestions?

Thanks for your time!


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[Hotwaterwizard]

You must take into account how much sand is required. And the cost of the sand. Then how long it will take not only to do the work but, sweeping up and shoveling sand after the job. The best way is to get the customer to supply the sand and the sand cleanup. Then you can charge him alot less$

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[Jon]

Why does he want you to use sand?

Also consider soda blasting, it is much more enviromentally friendly and you don't have to sweep it up.

Another point about sand, you cannot dispose of it in the trash, it must be taken to one of those enviroment sites for disposal.

Jon

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[AranServices]

Originally posted by Mirage Cleaners:
I've been thinking about getting into sandblasting because my neighborhood has a lot of old brick homes that need to be restored.

Can anyone suggest a good sandblasting attachment and what is the average price?

Can I do soda blasting with the same attachment?

Attachments go from well over $250.00 to under $80.00 at Northern Tool(plus tax). Sand (in this area) is about $5.99 per 100 pound bag.

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[David Saulque]

If you are looking at restoring of brick you must look at dry soda blsdting rather than sand - the only way to go.

David

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[Mirage Cleaners]

I've been thinking about getting into sandblasting because my neighborhood has a lot of old brick homes that need to be restored.

Can anyone suggest a good sandblasting attachment and what is the average price?

Can I do soda blasting with the same attachment?

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[Hotwaterwizard]

You can also run soda thru the sand blast attachment.

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[AranServices]

Originally posted by Hot Water Wizard:
You can also run soda thru the sand blast attachment.

Hey Wizard!
What's the difference between soda & sand?
I assume soda is more expensive. That seems to be a downside. Why is everyone so PRO-Soda? What does soda do that a ($6.00) 100 pound bag of sand can't do?
From me, Randy

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[Hotwaterwizard]

Baking Soda is a real fine grit so it takes off smaller layers at a time and leaves a smother finnish. It also desolves in water and washes away. Sand has to be swept and shoveled after it dries.

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[David Saulque]

Soda will leave a very fine and clean finish, however sand tends to pit and leave marks. Sodas cost runs between $.25-$1.00. If you want the customer to look at the item and say "that looks like new", then use soda.

David

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[bling bling]

if you use the attachment what keeps the soda from getting wet this may be a dumb ? but i want to know how the attachment works.you say the soda dissolves when wet will this leave the stuff you just cleaned off such as oil back on the surface when it dissolves since the oil hadn't been emulsified?how epa stand on this stuff going down city drains.so the way i see it the practical thing to do would be to sweep this stuff up and that bring in the time factor which is fastest soda are pressure washing.i know you have to recover water and dispose of it properly but it seems you would have to do the same with soda.cost wise i dont see the benefit.this is just my opinion at this time due to the fact that i dont fully understand this process.

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[David Saulque]

What you have is two types of soda systems. One system works with your PW, the second system is dry and it works with a large 130 cfm compressor or larger. The first system that works with water and cost around $500. The second is dry and it cost around $15K-20K.

I own a dry system and it is great. The soda cleans up with a broom. After the bulk of the soda is pick up you down-line some citric acid to gass of the remainder of the soda. Nothing goes down the storm drain, thus no EPA problem.

One should be cautioned, in that some system are expensive and do a very marginal job, but have a high price. Shop well, but once you buy one you will know how well they work on specific applications. Go into the net and search SODA Blasting.

David

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[Jon]

Now David,

You nose is up in the air again!!!

My system cost a heck of a lot more then $500, like double plus $200 more.

You are right, he needs to shop well as there are many systems out there and not all are created equal by a long shot.

To answer his question about how soda gets wet, my system uses the wand with an attachment on it, the only thing you need to remember is point it down before releasing the trigger so no water backflows into the soda line.

Took me a bit of practice to get it right, I kept letting go of the trigger and end up with clogged lines.

Jon

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[David Saulque]

Ok $1200-however you can get basic systems at $500 I think. Look at both, however the dry will not clog if you use a cooler. Look at both-$1200 and then jump to 15k is a hike.

David

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[bling bling]

i have been searching for info on soda blasting and only one web site come up and it do not offer hardly any usefull information.does anyone know of other sites.thanks

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[David Saulque]

Soda Blasting web sites www.sodaworks.com www.evansproducts.com www.gaffiticontrol.com www.diamondblastindust.com www.bigrigab.com

Good Luck

David

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[bling bling]

thanks

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