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Mike Hughes
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Do you know exactly what product it is, and how many coats?? Jobs like that can turn into nightmare's if all of a sudden you find out there are five coats of paint on there................
If you would like to tackle the job, quote him a price somewhat on the high side, with an understanding that you might not be able to remove it all, in which case you would have to reapply a fresh coat of paint.
Thats the worst case scenario......he would have to go with more paint. Remind him it does not have to be the exact color......
Good luck.
If you would like to tackle the job, quote him a price somewhat on the high side, with an understanding that you might not be able to remove it all, in which case you would have to reapply a fresh coat of paint.
Thats the worst case scenario......he would have to go with more paint. Remind him it does not have to be the exact color......
Good luck.
Mark
Moderator / Sponsor
I had a home a few years ago that the former owner
had painted the decks with enamel, I spent hours stripping
the deck but the paint was in the cracks between boards etc.
I finally gave up and repainted the deck! We were tempted to
rip it out, and replace and probably would have but we decided
to sell instead.
had painted the decks with enamel, I spent hours stripping
the deck but the paint was in the cracks between boards etc.
I finally gave up and repainted the deck! We were tempted to
rip it out, and replace and probably would have but we decided
to sell instead.
johnisimpson
New Member
just got through with something similar
Peevo,
My partner and I took a job 2 weeks ago stripping a grey (battleship grey to be exact) deck in preparation for staining. We are just starting out and are learning quickly questions that should be asked and tests to perform before committing to taking a job.
This particular one, we took with no testing and the homeowner had just bought so they didn't know the type of paint that had been used. After applying stripper, we realized that there were probably 2 coats of paint and a primer underneath. As we fought with this, we were also talking to others in the neighborhood trying to drum up business and a neighbor told us that quite a few of the residents had used an oil based, marine grade paint on their decks. I don't know how to tell if this is what was on the deck we were working on, but we tried a number of different types of strippers and none worked to our satisfaction (plus the cost was going to be much over what we anticipated by the time we had tried 4 different strippers and applied them several different times). Eventually, the homeowner took pity and said that they'd be just as happy painting the deck. Otherwise, I'd be out sanding that deck right now.
So, you might want to make it clear to the customer that you'll agree to take the job based upon your strippers working, and if they don't then you'll use a sander (and be sure to give them your rate for that service before you start).
We didn't try it, but members here suggested trying HD-80.
We tried testing aircraft stripper which is something I have used in past jobs but it didn't have much effect. Good luck in whatever you decide with this job.
John
Peevo,
My partner and I took a job 2 weeks ago stripping a grey (battleship grey to be exact) deck in preparation for staining. We are just starting out and are learning quickly questions that should be asked and tests to perform before committing to taking a job.
This particular one, we took with no testing and the homeowner had just bought so they didn't know the type of paint that had been used. After applying stripper, we realized that there were probably 2 coats of paint and a primer underneath. As we fought with this, we were also talking to others in the neighborhood trying to drum up business and a neighbor told us that quite a few of the residents had used an oil based, marine grade paint on their decks. I don't know how to tell if this is what was on the deck we were working on, but we tried a number of different types of strippers and none worked to our satisfaction (plus the cost was going to be much over what we anticipated by the time we had tried 4 different strippers and applied them several different times). Eventually, the homeowner took pity and said that they'd be just as happy painting the deck. Otherwise, I'd be out sanding that deck right now.
So, you might want to make it clear to the customer that you'll agree to take the job based upon your strippers working, and if they don't then you'll use a sander (and be sure to give them your rate for that service before you start).
We didn't try it, but members here suggested trying HD-80.
We tried testing aircraft stripper which is something I have used in past jobs but it didn't have much effect. Good luck in whatever you decide with this job.
John
Clean County
New Member
This is why I try not to take those kind of jobs. To much trial and error and time consuming. What happens if you cant strip it all out and the homeowner still doesn't want to go to a solid color. Then what??
My attitude is if I am not sure I can strip it out then run and don't look back. I tell homeowners that I can't strip that and I give them a couple of numbers of other powerwashers that might do it.
My attitude is if I am not sure I can strip it out then run and don't look back. I tell homeowners that I can't strip that and I give them a couple of numbers of other powerwashers that might do it.
see ya
Thanks guys told the customer I rather not attempt this job due to to many variables (how many coats of paint,what kind of paint and my lack of experiance with this type of process) he was more than understanding.Two weeks ago I washed his home with white aluminum siding.He was going to have it painted,it was painted once before. It came out so good he didnt need to have it painted so he was still happy with that.
Thanks guys told the customer I rather not attempt this job due to to many variables (how many coats of paint,what kind of paint and my lack of experiance with this type of process) he was more than understanding.Two weeks ago I washed his home with white aluminum siding.He was going to have it painted,it was painted once before. It came out so good he didnt need to have it painted so he was still happy with that.
T
Target P/W
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Hello there all.
Just finished a job that falls into this topic..
3600 square feet of multi-leveled decking around the home.
The home owner told me he had applied sikkens on it ten years ago. No problem right?.
Underneath the first coat of sikkens was another stain (benjamin Moore I found out later), then under that was another coat of what seemed to be latex paint.
At this point I was ready to sit down and have a big cry, as
I was looking at tiger striping of white latex that stripex-l at full strength did not even dent.
In a fit of desperation I fired up my burner and set the temperature at 200 degrees. The end result was the paint came up off of the decking floors, but I told him to re-stain solid on rails and spindles. I got paid and he was satified with the work.
Sometimes these homeowners are reluctant to tell you what they have done in the past to their decks for fear of astronomical quotes...
Part of the job I guess...
Chris
Just finished a job that falls into this topic..
3600 square feet of multi-leveled decking around the home.
The home owner told me he had applied sikkens on it ten years ago. No problem right?.
Underneath the first coat of sikkens was another stain (benjamin Moore I found out later), then under that was another coat of what seemed to be latex paint.
At this point I was ready to sit down and have a big cry, as
I was looking at tiger striping of white latex that stripex-l at full strength did not even dent.
In a fit of desperation I fired up my burner and set the temperature at 200 degrees. The end result was the paint came up off of the decking floors, but I told him to re-stain solid on rails and spindles. I got paid and he was satified with the work.
Sometimes these homeowners are reluctant to tell you what they have done in the past to their decks for fear of astronomical quotes...
Part of the job I guess...
Chris
mhpoole
New Member
Here is an easy way to deal with those type of decks !! Dont do them!!! You will be much better off, if a deck has been painted, i wont even touch it, but if its just a solid color stain thats different. I simply tell them that there is a chance that a painted deck was painted for a reason maybe age?, Defects? Stupidity? But dont let their mistake give you gray hair. You will be much better off if your more choosy about the jobs your except.
Mark
Mark
Scott Lefler
New Member
stripping
MY ADVICE IS...DON'T TURN DOWN WORK! LOOK, I NEVER TURN DOWN WORK, WHAT I DO IS SIMPLY PUT MORE OF THE SAME OVER THE TOP. IF THEY WANT IT STRIPPED, NO PROBLEM, BUT I WARN THEM THAT I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE ALL THE IT. IF THEY HAVE ACCESS BUILD UP THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. I BID ON A STRIP JOB 2 YEARS AGO AND THIS LADY MUST HAVE HAD 5 COATS OF PAINT AND BEHR ON IT. I USED STRIPPEX FULL STREGNTH, I USED ZIP STRIP, I USED EVERYTHING. I EVENTUALLY HAD TO PAY TWO GUYS TO PHYSICALLY SCRAPE HER DECK DOWN WITH SCRAPERS AND IT TOOK A FULL WEEK TO GET OFF ABOUT 70%. IT WAS A NIGHTMARE....THEN THIS B*@#! WOULDN'T PAY ME BECAUSE SHE SAID I DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL OFF, EVEN THOUGH I WARNED HER THAT IT WASN'T ALL GONNA COME OFF. IF YOU EVER DO ONE OF THESE PUT IT ALL IN WRITING AND EXPRESS THE FACT THAT IT MAY NOT ALL COME OFF! I SUFFERED A LOSS WITH THAT JOB, BUT I LEARNED SOME VALUABLE LESSONS. TAKE 50% DOWN IN CASE THEY TRY TO STIFF YOU. IN ESSENCE....STRIPPING SUCKS! JUST PUT ON MORE OF THE SAME.
MY ADVICE IS...DON'T TURN DOWN WORK! LOOK, I NEVER TURN DOWN WORK, WHAT I DO IS SIMPLY PUT MORE OF THE SAME OVER THE TOP. IF THEY WANT IT STRIPPED, NO PROBLEM, BUT I WARN THEM THAT I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE ALL THE IT. IF THEY HAVE ACCESS BUILD UP THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. I BID ON A STRIP JOB 2 YEARS AGO AND THIS LADY MUST HAVE HAD 5 COATS OF PAINT AND BEHR ON IT. I USED STRIPPEX FULL STREGNTH, I USED ZIP STRIP, I USED EVERYTHING. I EVENTUALLY HAD TO PAY TWO GUYS TO PHYSICALLY SCRAPE HER DECK DOWN WITH SCRAPERS AND IT TOOK A FULL WEEK TO GET OFF ABOUT 70%. IT WAS A NIGHTMARE....THEN THIS B*@#! WOULDN'T PAY ME BECAUSE SHE SAID I DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL OFF, EVEN THOUGH I WARNED HER THAT IT WASN'T ALL GONNA COME OFF. IF YOU EVER DO ONE OF THESE PUT IT ALL IN WRITING AND EXPRESS THE FACT THAT IT MAY NOT ALL COME OFF! I SUFFERED A LOSS WITH THAT JOB, BUT I LEARNED SOME VALUABLE LESSONS. TAKE 50% DOWN IN CASE THEY TRY TO STIFF YOU. IN ESSENCE....STRIPPING SUCKS! JUST PUT ON MORE OF THE SAME.