tonyshelton
Member
I want to clarify that the email I referred to that was forwarded by the PwNa president against our wishes went to the same town as where their attorney supposedly is. So, I erred in saying it went to their attorney, I couldn't know. I just assumed that was who it went to since it went to his town. It could have gone to anybody in that town. Either way, the president broke my trust because he was instructed to forward it to no one.
I sent the entire thing to your PWNA president at the time.
That was just the most recent John.
The worst was the FOIA request from the state of Nevada. It was approximately 430 pages of emails. In those emails Robert pestered the state to make changes that would make Nevada as difficult to work in as some parts of California and Texas. They tried to be nice to Robert and Jim in spite of their rantings. Finally Jim threatened them for not being willing to make the changes they asked for and went over their head to a regional EPA director. Once that was done their internal emails thereafter consist of making fun of Robert and Jim as if they were nutcases.
We informed the PWNA of what they were doing. I don't remember if it was that one or the County one that I sent to the president stating that he could read it, and share verbal confirmation with others but, since we bought and paid for the information we did not give permission for him to share it. According to my software the president read the 430 pages for 7 minutes then forwarded it to their attorney. On the opposite end of the sprectrum I read all 400+ pages along with some of the other UAMCC BOD who also read most of all of them.
This type of rogue activity that effects the livelihood of contractors and could put them out of business is worth more than 7 minutes of reading time and a shift off to the attorney just to check culpability.
That is the difference between a contractor for contractor org and an org in place to benefit a few large contractors and vendors. Our BOD stepped in, put a stop to it, mended fences with the agencies involved by showing professionalism and representing our industry as responsible contractors rather than a bunch of vendors trying pigeonhole contractors into being forced to buy their wares.
Of course the PWRA gets involved with none of this type stuff because helping contractors in ways that do not produce sales isn't part of their business plan. Which is absolutely fine, as long as people are aware there is a difference and know what their money is going for. There is nothing wrong with spending money on an org that exists to make money off of you as long as those terms benefit you accordingly. For the type of org it is, being that the PWRA doesn't get involved in government, I'd join it myself if I felt the return was worth the investment and if I thought my association with them would benefit my company. They are just simply in a different league than the other two orgs and comparing them is apples to oranges.
We warned the PWNA leadership about Robert and Jim. They didn't listen. Their sheer hatred for Ron and myself overshadowed any common sense decisions and they allowed Robert, Jim and you to come on board and represent them. It didn't take long for them to realize what a mistake they had made. That is why Robert is no longer a part of the org (except according to his video he is the president and founder of the PWNA) and Jim couldn't even get nominated. I don't know your story with them because I didn't have any need to look into it. Your involvement has been mostly that of a cheerleader to the most dangerous characters with little to no interaction with government authorities.
One day you will learn the same lesson the PWNA has, that being, all along Robert and Jim have taken actions that directly harm contractors in a quest to make money or feel important.
Meanwhile, the UAMCC has been working hard to help contractors work smarter, more efficiently, and within the current laws to keep pricing at a level that both supports contractor families while allowing our customers to clean more frequently, keeping the environment perpetually clean as we go. The UAMCC model is a compromise on all sides that keeps our industry moving along in spite of downturns in the economy.
I hope you will understand the difference one day and stop trying to play the victim. You are the victim of your own naïveté that was played on by the very people you look up to. They used you, incited your anger, and made you fight their battles for them. None of us at the UAMCC have ever done that to you John. We fight our own battles, do our own homework, and stand as men in our capacity as not only individual contractors, but as elected representatives of the org.