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onecallpowerw
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Why ?
Neither of the two are worthy of the post. Why do we settle for just having two. Here we are, unhappy with both, the country split down the middle and what are our choices ? One or the other. Why do you think the south wanted to no longer be apart of the union ? Answer ? Reasons just like this.....
Neither of the two are worthy of the post. Why do we settle for just having two. Here we are, unhappy with both, the country split down the middle and what are our choices ? One or the other. Why do you think the south wanted to no longer be apart of the union ? Answer ? Reasons just like this.....
Ok Onecall we get it you really,really ,really,really,really,really don't like Bush.I'm sure Kerry will appreciate your vote in Nov.
I'm with Oneness and Mark,Bush is my choice for the job..............now that we all know where one another stands can we drop this politics B.S and get back to something that may help us make our businesses more efficient and profitable.
I'm with Oneness and Mark,Bush is my choice for the job..............now that we all know where one another stands can we drop this politics B.S and get back to something that may help us make our businesses more efficient and profitable.
David Saulque
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Kerry has one big problem(plus his wife) and that is for 30 years he has done nothing. This is the only reason why his claim that his Swift Boat exploits give him the leadership to lead 265 million people in a time of war. I think not.
His leadership in the US Senate is very weak-why has he not been part of the solution?
Kerry has yet to give us a plan-but tell us each day what Bush is doing wrong. The sad thing is the DNC can only come up with Kerry and Edwards. They are just cannon fodder for HRC and Bill in 08.
His leadership in the US Senate is very weak-why has he not been part of the solution?
Kerry has yet to give us a plan-but tell us each day what Bush is doing wrong. The sad thing is the DNC can only come up with Kerry and Edwards. They are just cannon fodder for HRC and Bill in 08.
onecallpowerw
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I invite you all to visit...........
http://christianexodus.org/
These are the values, I stand for. Where do you stand ?
Must make you all feel good to assume where I stand. Just because Bush IS NOT the answer, you take it as I just like Kerry.
http://christianexodus.org/
These are the values, I stand for. Where do you stand ?
Must make you all feel good to assume where I stand. Just because Bush IS NOT the answer, you take it as I just like Kerry.
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David Saulque
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I am sure we would agree on some issues. However your group will never win anything in a general election. Your issues just don't play well. Why?-its the tone and just a little over the edge. You might be able to win local elections , but never nation wide.
If you don't vote for Bush your vote will land with Kerry. It's just simple math.
You will never find anyone that you agree with 100% of the time. The center right is the best of both worlds.
If you don't vote for Bush your vote will land with Kerry. It's just simple math.
You will never find anyone that you agree with 100% of the time. The center right is the best of both worlds.
oneness
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onecallpowerw said:
Based on some of your replies, it is not hard to come to the conclusion that you are pro-Kerry. Maybe that's a wrong assessment.
The bottom line is this....One of those two men will win the election. Thus, you have two choices that will have any impact on the outcome...to vote Bush or vote Kerry. You can have no effect at all and not vote, or vote for Nader or someone else.
You will not find a president who has not said one thing and then later, for whatever reason, done another.
Not wanting to get into a religious or biblical debate here, all I can say is that the goals of the nuts running that website are silly.
fair to say
Onecall,
Wouldn't it be fair to say that with the anti Bush info you post and the pro Kerry info you post,we would have drawn the conclusion that you were pro Kerry?
I assume nothing about you.I don't know you,nor you I so don't assume you think you know what my values are.It appears we share a great many of the same values(yours a little more radical than mine)but christain values none the less.
I said somewhere else that I don't like political debates.They create hard feelings among friends and peers.It is best that you vote your concience in Nov.,but if your candidate doesn't win don't spend the next 4 yrs whining about it,make an effort to contact your congressman and let them know you want to see changes.
Our system of goverment may be flawed but it's the best one that I know of.In what other country could you speak so freely about your dislike for the nations leader?I can tell you this list if free nations is very short,so enjoy what you have.
onecallpowerw said:
Onecall,
Wouldn't it be fair to say that with the anti Bush info you post and the pro Kerry info you post,we would have drawn the conclusion that you were pro Kerry?
I assume nothing about you.I don't know you,nor you I so don't assume you think you know what my values are.It appears we share a great many of the same values(yours a little more radical than mine)but christain values none the less.
I said somewhere else that I don't like political debates.They create hard feelings among friends and peers.It is best that you vote your concience in Nov.,but if your candidate doesn't win don't spend the next 4 yrs whining about it,make an effort to contact your congressman and let them know you want to see changes.
Our system of goverment may be flawed but it's the best one that I know of.In what other country could you speak so freely about your dislike for the nations leader?I can tell you this list if free nations is very short,so enjoy what you have.
onecallpowerw
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Please refresh
On Kerry, where have I ever posted pro info on Kerry ? Please refresh my memory........
On Kerry, where have I ever posted pro info on Kerry ? Please refresh my memory........
Well maybe I misinderstood the posts on this same subject located on another BBS.
I beleive I posted something I read elsewhere about Kerry and you posted what you felt were all the important facts about Kerry and Bush.
If I'm wrong I apologise,but as I read the info at this link
http://www.pressurewashinginstitute.com/board/upload/showthread.php?t=5214
I got the distinct impression you were pro Kerry.
I did see where at one point on the other BBS you stated you weren't for Nader,Kerry or Bush.I stand corrected and apologise.
Again this why I hate politics......too much he said,they said I said.None of us will agree on who is the best candidate or why.So why keep beating a dead horse?
I beleive I posted something I read elsewhere about Kerry and you posted what you felt were all the important facts about Kerry and Bush.
If I'm wrong I apologise,but as I read the info at this link
http://www.pressurewashinginstitute.com/board/upload/showthread.php?t=5214
I got the distinct impression you were pro Kerry.
I did see where at one point on the other BBS you stated you weren't for Nader,Kerry or Bush.I stand corrected and apologise.
Again this why I hate politics......too much he said,they said I said.None of us will agree on who is the best candidate or why.So why keep beating a dead horse?
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David Saulque
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The bottom line is this, President Bush stands at a point in time that no other President has been. Six months into office we are hit by a international enemy that hates us because our ancestors were in the crusades or something equally absurd. What ever we do-turn right or left we will make the wrong turn. We just can't set down and talk with them.
With a enemy that has no flag, country, origin, guided by hate, threats & actions. They would kill us all if given 1% of a chance. We must take the fight to them and not wait till they are striking our cities AGAIN.
To change directions would tell the enemy that they are in the right direction. When the Swift Boat Commander came back to the US and turned his back on the RVN Vets, he aided in the efforts of the North and prolonged the war and helped create a sister in arms with Miss Fonda. Is this the leader that we want? Not me!
With a enemy that has no flag, country, origin, guided by hate, threats & actions. They would kill us all if given 1% of a chance. We must take the fight to them and not wait till they are striking our cities AGAIN.
To change directions would tell the enemy that they are in the right direction. When the Swift Boat Commander came back to the US and turned his back on the RVN Vets, he aided in the efforts of the North and prolonged the war and helped create a sister in arms with Miss Fonda. Is this the leader that we want? Not me!
onecallpowerw
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What about ?
What about the one that used his Fathers Political might to avoid going to vietnam. This has almost certainly be proven. Missing Records ? Yeah right. Ask yourself the same question. Is this who we want to stand behind ? A COWARD or should the wealthy only have to sit back and watch the back bone of this country die.
I would think that standing beside someone that at least did not fear serving, would be a far better than that of a COWARD.
Look, nobody wanted to be in vietnam. Is it not your duty to stand up for what is right ? Kerry, went, seen, fought and came to his own conclusion that the vietnam war was unjust. And it was. I would venture to think that most on this board probably see this also. THE WAR IN VIETNAM SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. He used his 1st Admendment right and spoke up. SO FOR THIS HE SHOULD BE CASTRATED ? I dont think so.........
What about the one that used his Fathers Political might to avoid going to vietnam. This has almost certainly be proven. Missing Records ? Yeah right. Ask yourself the same question. Is this who we want to stand behind ? A COWARD or should the wealthy only have to sit back and watch the back bone of this country die.
I would think that standing beside someone that at least did not fear serving, would be a far better than that of a COWARD.
Look, nobody wanted to be in vietnam. Is it not your duty to stand up for what is right ? Kerry, went, seen, fought and came to his own conclusion that the vietnam war was unjust. And it was. I would venture to think that most on this board probably see this also. THE WAR IN VIETNAM SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. He used his 1st Admendment right and spoke up. SO FOR THIS HE SHOULD BE CASTRATED ? I dont think so.........
oneness
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onecallpowerw said:
The issue is that did all this, and NOW, when it is politically expedient to have "served" in Viet Nam, he uses that service that he despised before to further his political career. Pure and simple hypocrisy. It is further proof that he doesn't hold strong convictions either way. It doesn't matter what's right or wrong, what matters is what will garner the most votes.
onecallpowerw
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Apparently
Apparently you just wanted to type. Must be over your head.
Apparently you just wanted to type. Must be over your head.
David Saulque
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A coward - please - The National Guard is the cowards way-nice to know-The Guard has served in all wars and have lost many. Your statement reflects your limited grasp of history.
You have been seeing to much of Michael Moore and his distortion of history and fact.
You have been seeing to much of Michael Moore and his distortion of history and fact.
Scott Stone
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onecallpowerw said:
Yeah, sure Kerry was a war hero. He got out of Vietnam after four months. The way he did it? HE got three purple hearts. I am sure that David or another VET will correct me if I am wrong, but, You would have to be pretty incompetent to get three purple hearts in four months, especially since he had to put himself in for two of them, because his commanding officers thought he had inflicted the wounds himself. Some Hero. He found a loop hole, and found a way to get out of his service. Then on top of that, he has admitted to committing war crimes, he accused others UNDER HIS COMMAND, of doing the same things. They all deny it, and do not know where it came from. They do say that he was caught once or twice doig things that he should not have as an "Officer and a gentleman." [puke]
As for getting rid of our government, What do you offer as an improvement? It is the freest and most sought after form of government out there, I don't care what Michael Moore and the other nut cases (In my opinion) say. I have lived in multipel other countries, and visited even more. So far, i have not found the freedom that we have here. I have never been walking down the streets and asked for my papers, here. I have never had anyone do a secretly authorized search and seizure, just to see, here. I have not yet seen anyone refuse to step down after an election. I also have not had anyone in the government step in and say that I could not worship how I please. There are so many things good about our government, that I cannot see how a total change in our system of government could be beneficial to any of us. Organizations like the organization that you are presumably an adherent to, scare me as well. The presume to tell me how I should live my life, and what the right way is. Even Jesus Christ said "hate the sin and love the sinner" What you are talking about is robbing many people of their free choice.
I will admit that I am the first one to say that the issues that they are presenting are wrong, but, I do not think that our government was designed to be a dictatorship. From my point of view, that is what they are proposing, similar to Iran, except with a Christian basis. And if you think that you will get better adherence to your principles under Kerry, than you would with Bush, I think that you need to rethink your position. Kerry is a man that actually denies most of his own beliefs, for political expediency. He is one of the leaders to fight for partial birth abortion, Gay marriages, etc.
What you are talking about is not just electing a new and different president. That is something that happens every four years. What you are asking is for us to change what we stand for, and how we govern ourselves. That to me is truly scary. You might want to get out and rethink the positions that you are taking, because I am pretty sure that they are not in accordance with the Bible.
Scott Stone
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